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ASSOCIATION MEETING, March 2006... |
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Delegates from:- |
Apologies
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The Executive ...
- President
- Vice President
- Secretary
Visitors ...
- Mr
Borg, Carlingford
- Mr Knott,
Rouse Hill
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- Castle Hill
- Baulkham
Hills
- Winston
Hills
- Kellyville
- Kings
Langley
- Carlingford
- Schofields
- Oakville
- Hawkesbury
- Rouse Hill
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Correspondence inwards and outwards was tabled. |
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| Secretary's
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General matters:
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most contentious issue for the meeting is to be
consideration of the venue for the Youth League
Grand Final - Castle Hill v Baulkham Hills. It has
been drawn for Knights Field on Friday, but Baulkham
Hills are not happy, claiming it is not a neutral
venue in accordance with usual practice for Grand
Finals.
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Castle Hill are Club Champions, Kellyville win the
Incentive Shield.
Rep Season
wrap:
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The
representative season was a good one for Hills. We
entered four teams and won three competitions:- U/14
Association Cup, U/12 and U/14 Sydney Junior
Championship.
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The
Under 16 team finished in fourth place in its
competition – losing the semi final 4-3 to Macarthur
after leading mid way through the game and looking
winners. The team was not assisted by having to play
on Thursday night to qualify for the semi finals
which commenced the following Sunday and we had a
club round and players playing Under 18 in that
time.Overall that was a good finish given the
position it found itself in midway through the
competition.
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Despite winning two of the three competitions that
‘count’ for Brother Lambert Shield we finished a
point behind Ryde which had one win and two seconds
from its three teams
Winter Development:
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We are
suggesting a change in Sunday morning development –
traditionally Sunday morning in winter has been
Under 12 Development which is open to all players.
Last year we ‘lost’ all the better players to the
winter competition and numbers fell off
significantly.
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What is
being suggested is development for 8, 9 and 10 year
old players. We should use this time to improve the
standard of younger players instead of waiting until
they turn 10 to start development. Despite our
success in representative baseball this year our
standard continues to fall.
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Under
12 Development will be by invitation - midweek at
night possibly Tuesday at Knights Field. Clubs are
requested to nominate players they consider will
meet the criteria of having the ability to play
representative baseball next season. The final
selection of players will be Hills’ – there is
already a short list of players who attended the
January camp.
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There
will be a cost involved – which is necessary to
offset Hills’ costs in delivering the program.
Numbers will be limited to 25 players.
- We
are yet to negotiate with Kellyville to use its
ground for Under 15/16 Development on either
Wednesday or Thursday night. This program will be
extended to include Under 14 players who for
whatever reason choose not to go to the Baseball NSW
Development program.
Winter Competitions:
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Initial
indications are that the winter competition will be
largest ever. Baulkham Hills are entering teams.
Blacktown and Quakers Hill both have an Under 14
team. The eligibility date for Under 14 is for
players with a 1993 or 1994 birth-date. The playing
distance will be 50’x75’.
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We are
prepared to conduct an under 15/16 competition
IF there are sufficient teams interested.
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We are
prepared to find a team for players whose home clubs
are not entering teams in winter.
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The
question needing a decision is whether there should
be a different fee for non Hills players/teams. In
previous year’s we have charged a flat fee ($70) per
team. That fee will increase slightly this season.
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We are
continue to wrestle with the commencement date of
the competition. The end date is important with a
view to representative team trials and club gradings.
- At
this stage the 30 April is favoured as the start
date – it is later than we would like however it
gets complicated with Easter and School Holidays.
With this later start we may play the long weekend
in June
Other
Matters:
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Trials
for representative teams are tentatively set for
Saturday 5th August for Under 16 and Sunday 6th for
Under 12 and 14. Applications for coaches close 31
July, 2006.
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We had
an unexpected problem with the Under 17 Youth League
competition when it was discovered that a player was
registered and playing for Macarthur Under 18 as
well as Quakers Hill Under 17. After last season’s
problem we never thought we would have to cross that
bridge again. The Executive ruled him ineligible to
play in the final series.
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We had
a protest in Under 17 Youth League semi final
(Quakers v Winston Hills) – one that was extremely
difficult to resolve. In the end it was information
from independent people at the game that resulted in
Hills ruling that another innings being played. That
replay did not alter the result.
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Up
until a few weeks back we had no need for a
Judiciary. Since then we have had a suspension in
February and a complaint against a Kellyville coach
AND a send off of a Carlingford coach.
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Since
the last meeting I forwarded you a note re the
fundraising opportunity through the Entertainment
book. Is there any interest in the project
remembering that you can ‘take’ books on a
consignment basis and returning what you don’t sell?
Do you wish Hills to co-ordinate the opportunity?
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There
are joint runners up in Kelly League - or that is
what we think as we are still waiting for a
Kellyville result.
TeeBall
Presentations:
The T Ball
presentations will be held at Kellyville on Saturday at
10 am.
Koala League presentations will be at Castle Glen at
10am.
T Ball results were:
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Petroff
- Premiers Kellyville, Runners up Baulkham Hills.
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Daisley
- Premiers Kings Langley, Runners up Castle
Hill.
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Kelly -
Premiers Schofields, joint Runners up Kellyville &
Oakville Black.
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Catt -
Premiers Castle Hill, Runners up Castle Hill.
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Koala -
Premiers Castle Hill, Runners up Carlingford.
Sundries:
There are
some matters that we will need to consider very shortly.
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One is
to review the dispensation policy. Certainly next
season all requests will be considered at the same
meeting. This was to be the case this season however
clubs, for whatever reason were not organized
enough. As part of the review consideration should
be given as to whether there should be a different
policy for girls. This is a potential policy with
Baulkham Hills and Winston Hills teams.
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Need to
review the rules. The pitch limits in under 12 are
too high especially in Leonard Leagues where
continually only one or two players are used as a
pitcher with no development of other players. It may
be easier if the suggestions for rule reviews are
handled in writing. The closing date for the review
is 30 April.
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The
latest issue of the Hills Newsletter was distributed
yesterday.
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There
will be players added to the under 12 and 14 squads
for City v Country just to be able to comply with
the rules.
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NSWJBL Report ... |
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Oriole
Stadium has again been ‘trashed’.
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There
are ongoing events in an attempt to recover monies
owed by D. Dawes.
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S.
McFarlane and J. Yard have been requested to appear
in court case in Alice Springs as a result of a
fatal accident they witnessed.
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The
Brother Lambert Shield was delivered – BNSW are
displeased with the policy of providing a new
shield.
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Application for JBL coaches invited. Invitations to
trial for teams have been issued.
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There
is an ongoing rumour that Baseball NSW will remove
the Kenko ball from Under 12 competition.
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The
BNSW Board of Directors recently overturned a Major
League subcommittee decision.
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BNSW Junior League Standing Committee (JLSC) Report ... |
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There
is a request that people who are interested to input
suggestions on how JLSC should operate.
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Representative of Womens’ League addressed the
meeting as to the role of the Womens’ League as it
“connects” to Juniors. There is concern at the
overlap of responsibility; and the spread of ages.
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There
is a coaching clinic for girls at BOP on 17 March.
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It was
agreed that Associations could add players to their
playing rosters for City v Country.
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Competition was to be played under Country rules,
but now have JLSC pitching restrictions.
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Need to
update MyClub information especially the information
relating to club officials.
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There
will be a debrief meeting of Rep Coaches/Managers on
12 April at BOP. 7.30pm start.
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Proposed to split the responsibility for rep
competition administration out from the main JLSC,
leaving that body free to deal with player growth.
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Mr.
Catt moved a motion objecting to the statement re
discrimination by the CEO and supported by the
Chairman of Baseball NSW. The motion was carried 6 –
0 with one abstention.
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J.
Kovacs has resigned from JLSC.
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| Treasurer's
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Statement of Financial Position tabled and accepted.
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Accounts for payment approved.
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| President's
Report ... |
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| General
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Dispensations: Mrs. Sloggett raised the question of
granting dispensations for girls to play down an age
group. Mr. Schmidt stated that Hills would like to
review the dispensation policy as a block. The aim is to
have the policy made ‘more user friendly’.
Change in presentations: Mr. Tossell requested that
the T Ball presentation for the Schofields team be moved
to Castle Glen where Schofields Under 14 Street South
team is playing. This was agreed.
Entertainment Books: There was no interest from
Clubs in the entertainment books.
Nomination for Development: Mr. Bergan nominated
Cameron Power for Under 12 Development.
Youth League Grand Final: There is a disagreement
between the Baulkham Hills and Castle Hill clubs as to
the venue of the Youth League Grand Final. Initially the
venue was scheduled for Knights Field. Baulkham Hills
complained, wanting a neutral venue – proposed change to
Bensons Lane. Castle Hill then objected to that change.
- Mr.
Yard stated that there were reasons why Friday night
was chosen. The competition is a Friday night
competition; it is easier to obtain umpires; from a
promotion point of view it is clearly the best
choice; it ‘frees’ up families to attend who have
other commitments on Saturday.
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Mrs. Fox stated that Baulkham Hills do not feel that
Knights is a neutral ground. The size of the field
is a problem as are the toilet facilities. Queried
how many games Castle Hill have won away from
Knights. Why was game played on Saturday last year?
- Mr.
Yard replied last year’s Youth League grand final
was poorly attended and lacked atmosphere. As an
organisation we try to share Grand Finals around but
always are acutely aware of the efforts clubs
provide to the Association - Castle Hill = venues
for development, camps etc. Kellyville = hosting
representative games. This commitment cannot be
ignored when the Association can offer something in
return – it would simply be unfair.
- Mr.
Bray stated that 90% of the Youth League games are
played on Friday afternoon or night. Baulkham Hills
have played there five times this season, plus a
couple of Hills representative games. The same
problems re toilets exist with Laybutt. He did offer
that if the toilets were a problem Castle Hill would
hire “porta Loos’. As to the size of the playing
field – Castle Hill have only hit one home run there
this season.
- Mr.
Yard stated he would be very reluctant to move any
venue for Grant Finals outside the Hills clubs – it
would be a slap in the face to all clubs. There is
absolutely no guarantee that the diamonds would be
prepared or there would be adequate facilities
(canteen, parking, toilet).
- Mr.
Schmidt stated that our problem is that there is
only one ‘lit’ ground. He felt uncomfortable about
the situation as in this dispute there is no fix
that will satisfy both clubs. He asked whether
either club cared if it was a Saturday afternoon
game rather than Saturday morning IF
the decision was to play Saturday instead of Friday
night.
- Mr.
Borg stated that being objective it would create a
dangerous precedent with every future decision re
venues being queried. Mr. Rymer agreed that it would
create a dangerous precedent – his opinion is that
the decision of this type rest with Executive Mr.
Schmidt stated that the Executive have taken the
matter seriously, and considers that the Association
as a whole has to make the decision.
- The
options put to the meeting were a matrix of:
- Play at Knights Field or "Elsewhere", AND
- Play on Friday night or anytime Saturday
The result of the secret ballot was eight votes to
three in favour of playing at Knights Field on
Friday evening. There were two abstentions – Mr.
Schmidt and Mr. Yard did not vote.
- Mr.
Schmidt thanked Mrs. Fox for the manner in which she
delivered Baulkham Hills’ views. He was disappointed
that Baulkham Hills did not have a team
representative in attendance, but in fairness,
neither did Castle Hill.
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MEETING is April 11th at the Baulkham Hills Sporting Club,
7:30pm. |
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