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ABSTRACTED MINUTES -
ASSOCIATION MEETING, February 2007... |
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Delegates from:- |
Apologies
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The Executive ...
- President
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Vice-President
- Secretary
Visitors ...
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- Baulkham
Hills
- Oakville
- Kellyville
- Schofields
- Carlingford
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- Winston
Hills
- Castle Hill
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- Correspondence inwards and outwards was tabled.
- Minutes
from the previous meeting were taken as read, subject to
inclusion of the matter of Kellyville Youth League team not
being penalised two competition points from a breach of the
playing rules.
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| Secretary's
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Disciplinary Matters ...
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Certainly has not been a stellar month for Hills.
There were problems at the Baulkham Hills and Castle
Hill Under 17 game on Friday night. Baulkham Hills
have lodged a formal complaint. There will a hearing
next Wednesday probably at Demons Sporting Club. The
scope of the enquiry will not be narrow but address
all the ‘rubbish’ that happens whenever these two
clubs meet.
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problem is pure and simple the absolute ‘rubbish’
that happens in Major League has become commonplace
in Juniors. There are just absolute cheap shots
happening each and every time these teams play. If
spectators cannot behave then stay away. By the way
have you stopped to think who will umpire your games
next year? No, of course not, someone will turn up
each week just for the pleasure of being abused by
ill informed spectators who think baseball is a
‘blood sport’.
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Judiciary will be busy – Dominic Woodward was sent
off in an Under 14 game and coach Telfer (
Kellyville) ejected from an Under 17 game.
Finals ...
Normally
at this time of the year we announce the venues for the
finals – but we are not in a position to do it this
year. Up until the weekend’s rain we were very concerned
with the playing surface of a number of grounds. We
still have the same concerns. Venues will be the best
playing surface available then the facilities/ amenities
available to us. Neutral venues will not be a
consideration.
Administration ...
We have
concerns with club’s attention to detail and simply we
have ‘had it’- we do not go outside our rules yet clubs
think its fine.
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Point One – No team is to have coaches on the base
paths or anyone in the dugout that is not registered
with the Association. Baulkham Hills have not
registered Rowan Standish as a coach who was in the
centre of the trouble Friday night. It is very
difficult for Hills to discipline anyone if they are
not registered with the Association.
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Point Two – Clubs are continuing to play players who
are not registered. The cut off date for late
registrations has long passed.
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Point Three – Clubs ignore the rules. On the long
weekend just decided to make their own arrangements
despite what the rules require. Don’t worry what was
going on in other areas – where clubs would not
agree-or where clubs realized that they had
insufficient players and took the unpleasant
medicine of forfeiting.
In the end where there was no request through
the Associations, the games were declared ‘no
games’.
Imagine my surprise to be asked by the father of
a six and half year old for advice what age
should his (talented) son play in. Seems the boy
regularly plays two games a Saturday – Under 8
and Under 10! We have never ever seen a
dispensation request.
Same with midweek games and/ or washouts – there
has to be a query over whether the games will be
played by Wednesday and a couple will affect the
final standings. There will be no extensions. It
seems that once the calendar reaches December 1
in Hills – there is an automatic switch to
December 25.
The rules are the fabric that binds the
competitions together – break that fabric and
everything fall apart.
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Point Four – Results do clubs check them? It will be
hard to categorically say yes. There is a game for
which no result has been received despite prompting.
Maybe we will just assume that the game was never
played. Someone will wake up as it may effect the
final positions.
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Point Five- At the December meeting we issued
instructions regarding Conference Rules being (a) a
full set being available in the canteen, and (b)
relevant Conference Rules being available in team’s
score book. Saturday we have a disagreement/
uncertainty over what rules the Under 10 Daisley
were playing to – after all it was on the draw. The
problem would have been simply overcome had the
instruction been adopted. We are considering fining
both clubs.
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Point Six- We know the information we send to clubs
re opportunities for training, overseas trips etc
never reach the players. I have to assume Rule
changes etc don’t reach coaches as well. We don’t
have to look far for proof.
Rep
teams ...
The
finals of the representative competition are this
weekend. Both the Under 12 and 14 go into the finals as
undefeated however that means nothing as the format
tests both tactics and the overall strength of the
squad. The old adage of the squad is only as strong as
its weakest player will again be proven to be true
again. There is no certainty that the best team will win
the competition given the format and the rules.
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Under 16 team has qualified for the final series in
either second or third place - those finals also
start this weekend.
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Under 14 Association Cup team qualified, somewhat
fortunately, for the grand final going through the
rounds undefeated. They were defeated in the grand
final 10-7 with some players being overawed in the
final game. That is our major fear with Under 12 and
14 as not all the best players will be on the
playing field at same time in every game.
Development ...
- We
made an offer to conduct specialist pitching clinics
on Wednesday evening. The offer was for the smaller
clubs – Hawkesbury, Oakville, Rouse Hill, Kings
Langley and Carlingford- in an attempt to lift the
playing standard in those clubs. Only Hawkesbury and
Oakville bothered to nominate players. Unfortunately
week one was washed out.
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There were two camps held in January- the method of
participation altered with individual nomination
accepted rather than by invitation. The five day
camp was more of a child minding exercise. Certainly
we are under valuing our clinics – in the
correspondence is an article that appeared in the
local newspaper for Basketball clinics @ $90 a day
compared to $40 a week.
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While clubs did not support the Under 11 concept it
was obvious at the two day pitching clinic that the
competition has played its role in developing
pitchers. There were a number of players that
impressed.
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What is a laugh is the acceptance by some people of
the Under 12 T Ball concept. The five day camp again
proved how poor are some of the players skills in
all four aspects, throwing, hitting, running and
fielding. At least in T ball it is almost certain
that there will have to be a play on every batter in
one or two swings. That fact alone can only improve
the players’ skills by giving them opportunities to
make plays.
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winter elite development program will commence on
3rd April. Participation will be by invitation. We
have identified a number of players for Under 12.
There is a significant change in our thinking where
we will charge a fee for winter development. In
return we are considering issuing players with a kit
including a theraband, skipping rope, shirt and
development cap.
Primarily the program will be for Under 12 although
we will conduct another program earlier in the
evening for Under 13 and 14 players who are not
involved in Baseball NSW Program. Again
participation will be by invitation.
Winter ...
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This winter we will be able to offer a trip to
Victoria for Under 12 and should be in a position to
include other age groups as well. It has the
possibility of being a reciprocal visit and probably
will.
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There will be a winter competition this winter –
offering competitions in Under 10, 12, 14 and 16/17.
Date of Birth eligibility will be under the age as
at 31 December, 2007. Competitions will commence on
April 15.
- The
rumour that there will be no club teams in winter is
completely unfounded. It seems if you don’t know an
answer then start a rumour – at least it improves
your standing as a person ‘who knows what is going
on’. What we are seriously considering though is a
compulsory development activity prior to the Under
12 teams playing. It would run for approximately 45
minutes. We were extremely disappointed with the
pitching standard in last winter’s Under 12
competition when games become a ‘walkathon’.
Protests ...
There is
a protest in Under 17 Cashmore North Lansvale v
Hawkesbury. Hawkesbury have over pitched a player by
allowing him to throw 83 pitches instead of 75. Game
finished 7 all and at time Lansvale led 7-6. Do I think
the result would have altered – no I don’t but rules are
rules and the protest is likely to be upheld.
Knights Field lights ...
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Everyone should know that the matter of lighting at
Knights Field has been before Council for months now
and it was necessary that residents had the
opportunity to list their objections.
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Approval was received last Friday at about 2pm that
the Club was advised that the curfew was extended
until 10pm only on Fridays and only in summer
months.
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Conditions include the requirement for spectators to
park in the soccer car park – this requirement is
effective immediately. Personally I think the
banning of parking is a great thing- it will be the
same at winter development. As it is now it is only
a matter of time before a child is struck by a car.
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There are other conditions relating to the use of
Knights Field on Friday night that we will issue in
time.
Daisley Trophies ...
Kings
Langley wants to rescind the ruling made in December not
to issue trophies for the revised Under 10 Daisley
competition that started in December. Letter is in
correspondence.
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point that this should have been discussed was
December – but we have not altered our thinking. The
split in Daisley came about when Leonard South had
to be regarded and we were looking at giving the two
Under 12 T Ball teams (Kellyville and Kings Langley)
additional opportunities – which opportunity was to
move them from T Ball to Mod Ball.
- If
you look at the original draw for Daisley it is
clear that it was never intended to split the
competition at any time. We had previously advised
that due to the overall poor playing standard that
age group would not be playing live ball this
season.
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With two additional teams available the competition
was able to be split – nobody was denied the
opportunity to win a trophy in Under 10 Daisley it
were only the weaker performed teams that were
placed in Under 10 Daisley – allowing Daisley North
to move to live ball.
- Who
went down was really the luck of the ‘draw’ – we
asked clubs for their opinion and as usual received
very little feedback. Following the 18th November
the point score was: Castle Hill Crusaders 16,
Oakville 15, Baulkham Hills 13, Winston Hills 12,
Castle Hill Bowmen 12, Hawkesbury 8, Kings Langley
6, Rouse Hill Jaguars 6, Schofields 2, Rouse Hill
Cougars 0. The point score from Under 12 T Ball was
Winston Hills ‘Xenas’3, Kellyville ‘Mustangs’ 0.
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Teams that had no chance of winning Daisley North
were left in the top division just to have a viable
competition while others with two more points went
up. We never thought that was a problem as there
were not going to be any winners in Daisley South.
Imagine the ‘hue and cry’ if we made the same
decision but offered trophies. What the clubs give
the players in the way of trophies/ jackets is their
own business.
General ...
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Travis McDonald was selected in the Australian Under
16 squad selected from the National Under 16
tournament.
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Attempts are being made to arrange a Dinner
celebrating Hills’ 21st year of operation. Still
have a few details to iron out. The proposed date is
21 March, 2007. It is a user pay function.
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Nice to see Ken Sharpe at baseball last Saturday
after a health scares the week before. Ken had three
stents inserted in the arteries to his heart.
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Finally it is fitting to suggest that clubs to
recommend the NSW Sport & Recreation has produced a
kit on Sports Rage – the link is
www.dsr.nsw.gov.au/sportrage/index.asp
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a result of the representative finals being this
week the rounds of Douglass and Hay League on 17
February will be transferred to 24 February. Some
venues and times will alter.
- In
the last few weeks there have been two rounds of
representative baseball. The weather conditions were
in stark contrast. Oakville had very hot conditions
while Kellyville was affected by wet weather. Both
clubs handled the conditions very well.
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NSWJBL Report ... |
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Mr. Schmidt reported on the NSWJBL
January monthly meeting (there was no December meeting).
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The
tour to Taiwan is to proceed, cost is approx $2,150.
There is an opportunity to take another player.
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Winter
Program will be Under 12, Under 13 and Under 16 to
Japan and Under 15 to USA. There is also an
opportunity to participate in Pan Pacific
Championship to be held in China. In addition a
Pacific Friendship Tournament, involving teams from
USA, Chinese Taipei, Japan and NSWJBL will be held
in Sydney in August.
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The
organisation is undertaking a review of its
constitution. Only very minor changes are envisaged.
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Consideration of non members of NSWJBL being able to
nominate for tours is being considered. It is very
much a ‘Work in Progress’ thought of “do we go
outside membership to fill touring teams”? There is
no intention that non members could replace a member
of NSWJBL – no matter how good a player the
non member was.
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BNSW Junior League Standing Committee (JLSC) Report ... |
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Mr. Catt
reported on the J.L.S.C. December meeting.
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Koala
League owed player registration fees. Also it has
not paid this season’s registration fees.
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March
meeting of J.L.S.C. will be a debrief of
representative season with all coaches.
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Baseball NSW will meet every second month.
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Quakers Hill was voted Club of the Year.
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| President's Report ... |
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Mr.
Schmidt reported that Hills would be staging a 21st
Celebratory “Dinner at Rydges Hotel, Rosehill. We
have booked for 200 – cost $60 a head. We would
appreciate anything that can be done to publicize
the dinner.
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Mini
Ball term 1 in 2007 - not as good a response as
last year. The reason for that is at least partly
because we were unable to publicize in the schools.
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Mr.
Schmidt stated that the Mini Ball concept is proven
– all kudos go to the Kellyville club.
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Youth
League. Mr. Schmidt stated that there will be an
enquiry into the conduct of the domestic Youth
League competition. Mr. Schmidt stated he was
frankly disgusted with the behavior he has
witnessed. It is mainly when the parents become
involved.
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There
was discussion including an indication that parents
are ‘crossing the line’ and of unacceptable
behavior in competitions as young as Under 10.
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Mr.
Schmidt added that the problem does exist now in
Under 12 and 14. It is a cultural thing in Hills
caused by parents.
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| Treasurer's
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Statement of Financial Position tabled and accepted.
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Accounts for payment approved.
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also have a financial contribution in Mini Ball that
is yet to be recovered.
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Clubs/ Individuals that owe money or equipment to
the Association as at 2 March, 2007 will be
ineligible to play in final series.
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two camps in January resulted in a loss of $70.
There were too many coaches at the pitching camp as
a result of a substantial number of registered
players failing to attend.
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Ashley Brown: Mr. Blundell reported that
Ashley Brown had been resurfaced. The attitude of Demons
Sports Club toward the future use of Ashley Brown has
‘softened’ considerably.
Trophies: Mr. Blundell requested that there be
trophies awarded for Daisley South competition. The club
was prepared to purchase the trophies if necessary.
- Mr.
Yard stated that there was never intention of
splitting Daisley League into two competitions at
any time. The change came when it was necessary to
redraw the Under 12 Leonard South competition and it
was considered the best way forward was for the two
Under 12 T Ball teams (Kellyville and Winston Hills)
to play mod ball. Having made that decision it was
an easy decision to play live ball for the top six
teams in Daisley and mod ball for bottom four teams
plus the T Ball teams.
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There were not a top six teams, rather a top three
or four, the others were not really competitive. If
there was no competition to be won the split was
easy – otherwise the split was very difficult.
Hawkesbury was one club that certainly would have
been regraded down.
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was resolved four votes to three not to award
trophies.
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MEETING is March 13th at the Baulkham Hills Sporting Club,
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